difficult conversations with the chinese, stood up in support of the peaceful resolutions in the south china sea and secretary clinton is a memorable, outstanding secretary of state and many people's minds. i think she deserves enormous credit for what she's done. >> andrea, are you there? >> hello? >> are you there? this is katherine, her producer. >> how are you? >> great, katherine. we're waiting to get andrea on the phone. we're on air. let me go back to the ambassador here. we can, of course, talk about the accomplishments, ambassador burns, of hillary clinton in this respect. but you and i both know that many people are looking at this image and they're visualizing a couple of years from now and these are not state department workers clamoring for a hand shake. they're people who are supporting her run for presidency. what do you believe at least is looking that far ahead? you are an insider. you know a lot about the clinton family. both the former president and the secretary of state. >> oh, i think it's impossible to answer that question. only secretary clinton knows, obviously, what